QL Commercial Software Preservation
Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
Rich,
I very much appreciate what you (and the people supporting you) are doing.
But: Let's face it - (This is now my very personal opinion) There has been a lot of software around for the QL for Software development. But apparently, people seem to think there'd be a treasure chamber full of games gems hidden somewhere out there behind nasty capitalistic copyright owners. I think there isn't.
There were quite some games indeed, but nothing really unique where I'd say it'd urgently itch me to own that title. Compared to other micros, there's no such thing as the killer game (like Manic Miner on the Spectrum, Sun Dog on the Atari, M.U.L.E or Maniac Mansion for the C64, Elite on the BBC or Zarch for RiscOS) - The QL had only a very small number of above average games, and nothing really stunning. I like the fact that you're trying to preserve all of this stuff - But, alas, I think (again, my personal opinion) I don't need it ......
The QL used to be (and for me, still is) a development machine. There's no other micro of that that time that had that much programming languages and development tooling available given its really short commercial lifetime. And basically all of the really good tooling is still available and, even better, free.
If you want some good games: Come up with a good idea and write them yourselves!
Tobias
I very much appreciate what you (and the people supporting you) are doing.
But: Let's face it - (This is now my very personal opinion) There has been a lot of software around for the QL for Software development. But apparently, people seem to think there'd be a treasure chamber full of games gems hidden somewhere out there behind nasty capitalistic copyright owners. I think there isn't.
There were quite some games indeed, but nothing really unique where I'd say it'd urgently itch me to own that title. Compared to other micros, there's no such thing as the killer game (like Manic Miner on the Spectrum, Sun Dog on the Atari, M.U.L.E or Maniac Mansion for the C64, Elite on the BBC or Zarch for RiscOS) - The QL had only a very small number of above average games, and nothing really stunning. I like the fact that you're trying to preserve all of this stuff - But, alas, I think (again, my personal opinion) I don't need it ......
The QL used to be (and for me, still is) a development machine. There's no other micro of that that time that had that much programming languages and development tooling available given its really short commercial lifetime. And basically all of the really good tooling is still available and, even better, free.
If you want some good games: Come up with a good idea and write them yourselves!
Tobias
ʎɐqǝ ɯoɹɟ ǝq oʇ ƃuᴉoƃ ʇou sᴉ pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ʇxǝu ʎɯ 'ɹɐǝp ɥO
Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
Hi Tobias,
do you ever played FTC (or FTC II)? That's definive a cultic game!
Even more complex than something like ELITE.
Detlef
do you ever played FTC (or FTC II)? That's definive a cultic game!
Even more complex than something like ELITE.
Detlef
Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
No.
(But I was actually hoping/expecting someone to come up with a killer game to prove me wrong )
Maybe I should try that sometimes.
Thanks
Tobias
(But I was actually hoping/expecting someone to come up with a killer game to prove me wrong )
Maybe I should try that sometimes.
Thanks
Tobias
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
Fleet Tactical Command would be a great program to be re-released (as well as some of the other stuff designed by Di-Ren).
Unfortunately, I have been completely unable to track down Robin Barker (even though he was an ex-Quanta Chairman). I even tried contacting someone who I believe used to live with him, but no response.
Does anyone remember who else was involved with Di-Ren (it was not just Robin on his own from memory)...
Unfortunately, I have been completely unable to track down Robin Barker (even though he was an ex-Quanta Chairman). I even tried contacting someone who I believe used to live with him, but no response.
Does anyone remember who else was involved with Di-Ren (it was not just Robin on his own from memory)...
Rich Mellor
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
His brother... sadly I can't remember his nameRWAP wrote:Fleet Tactical Command would be a great program to be re-released (as well as some of the other stuff designed by Di-Ren).
Unfortunately, I have been completely unable to track down Robin Barker (even though he was an ex-Quanta Chairman). I even tried contacting someone who I believe used to live with him, but no response.
Does anyone remember who else was involved with Di-Ren (it was not just Robin on his own from memory)...
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
Rich,
I have found this archive reference to DI-REN, dates back to 1996-1997, not sure it is of any use.
http://web.archive.org/web/199701232123 ... ts/ftc.htm
Tom
I have found this archive reference to DI-REN, dates back to 1996-1997, not sure it is of any use.
http://web.archive.org/web/199701232123 ... ts/ftc.htm
Tom
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
That is an excellent find. I've never seen a screenshot of the PC version it looks very good. Is the address at the bottom, different to one people have been trying to contact them on?
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
Hi,
I tried to download the software, but it is password protected.
I usually dump the web site I am interested in using WGET, but this will fail at the password prompt.
Pity FTC could not be GPL then a updated version could be done.
I tried to download the software, but it is password protected.
I usually dump the web site I am interested in using WGET, but this will fail at the password prompt.
Pity FTC could not be GPL then a updated version could be done.
Regards,
Derek
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
No - that is the old address where Robin Barker used to live....vanpeebles wrote:That is an excellent find. I've never seen a screenshot of the PC version it looks very good. Is the address at the bottom, different to one people have been trying to contact them on?
Rich Mellor
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