SMSQ/2 on Atari

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Re: SMSQ/2 on Atari

Postby pjw » Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:03 pm

Derek_Stewart wrote:Hi,

I have the Hatari emulator booting into SMSQ/E v3.37, in glorius monochrome.
Yes, looks hot, eh ;) How did you get it to read a .win file, though?


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Re: SMSQ/2 on Atari

Postby Derek_Stewart » Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:47 pm

pjw wrote:
Derek_Stewart wrote:Hi,

I have the Hatari emulator booting into SMSQ/E v3.37, in glorius monochrome.
Yes, looks hot, eh ;) How did you get it to read a .win file, though?

Sorry, I made a mistake in the message, I could not read the hard drive QWA file.


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Re: SMSQ/2 on Atari

Postby pjw » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:23 am

Derek_Stewart wrote:
pjw wrote:
Derek_Stewart wrote:Hi,

I have the Hatari emulator booting into SMSQ/E v3.37, in glorius monochrome.
Yes, looks hot, eh ;) How did you get it to read a .win file, though?

Sorry, I made a mistake in the message, I could not read the hard drive QWA file.
Pity. I dont have time to try to figure it out myself right now.


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Re: SMSQ/2 on Atari

Postby Derek_Stewart » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:56 am

HI,

I seem to have Hatari and SMSQ/E reading the QL/E QWA file.

I used the Windows compile version under Wineon Linux Mint 19.3

I added the QLE.WIN file from the "The Distrubution" into the Hard Drive option menu as SCSI drive 0

Changed the System to TT 32Mb / 8Mb

Booted up the emulator, double clicked the SMSQE.PRG file and the the SMSQ/E v3.37 boots up into QL/E

I have not been able to compile the Hatari source code on my Linux computer as it needs the "capsimage" library, which I am having trouble finding. But it looks the SCSI drive option is not included till Hatari v2.3.1

So will have to struggle with Wine or a Windows PC....


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Re: SMSQ/2 on Atari

Postby NormanDunbar » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:18 pm

Hi Derek,

I think capsimage is part of capslib. So that might be the library you need.

Thetes a thread here -- the formatting is all over the shop though!

https://listengine.tuxfamily.org/lists. ... 00000.html


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Re: SMSQ/2 on Atari

Postby Derek_Stewart » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:30 pm

Hi Norm,

Thanks, for the tip on capslib. I see if there is a compiled libary, so that I can compile Hatari v2.3.1

To get the Hatari emulator to read QWA files seens to be in TT system config mode as a SCSI drvice.

An Atari ST has a ASCSI interface, which needs an extra adapter to connect to a SCSI device. Which requires a driver to be installed to recognise the SCSI bus.

This driver is built into the TT, which is probably why the emulator recognises, the QWA file on the SCSI hard disk option.


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Re: SMSQ/2 on Atari

Postby RalfR » Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:27 pm

Would be interesting to know, if "Furst" still have the copyright on SMS2 or if it is possible to make this public. Beside SMS2 itself, there are a lot of QL resident applications needful, as you have might see in my SMS2 BOOT.


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Re: SMSQ/2 on Atari

Postby stephen_usher » Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:33 pm

Derek_Stewart wrote:This driver is built into the TT, which is probably why the emulator recognises, the QWA file on the SCSI hard disk option.


That's actually not true.

The TT's ROM only has enough intelligence to scan the SCSI bus (as it does the ACSI bus, which is a simplified version of SCSI) and read the boot sector of disk ID 0. After this, as with ACSI, it relies upon the hard disk driver software, such as AHDI, ICD, HDDriver or PP's driver.

The MegaSTe only has ACSI but has an internal host adapter so that it connect to a SCSI drive. It's merely an STe in a TT case with a VME bus added plus a CPU booster (16MHz + cache).

As I mentioned, ACSI is actually a simplified SCSI bus and the host adapter acts as a translator. Early host adapters were simple and dumb.

Of course, once SMSQ/E boots it throws all of that away and relies upon its own drivers for the hardware.


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Re: SMSQ/2 on Atari

Postby pjw » Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:16 pm

I guess the "proper" way to do this would be to take the Atari virtual hard disk and partition that with fdisk to create the required QLWA partitions. Getting the stuff over from a QXL.WIN system after that could be a fiddly job, as it would require an intermediate medium both sides can talk to. But at least it wouldnt be impossible.


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Re: SMSQ/2 on Atari

Postby guibrush » Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:50 pm

Hi,
I managed to find a SMS2 cartridge!
https://imgur.com/a/I9N7275

My problem is that I have no idea how I can dump this. Did you have any idea?



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