Q68 support thread

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Re: Q68 support thread

Postby Derek_Stewart » Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:53 pm

Hi,

I supplied MDI and FDI with every Q68 supplied. Just read the manual to learn how to use the excellent software by Martin Head.

I did not however supply MDI compatible microdrive images.


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Re: Q68 support thread

Postby Chr$ » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:16 pm

Ok. I couldn't see anything in the PDF Q68 Mainboard Manual or the SMSQ/E FOR THE Q68 doc. Is there another?

And I assume that implies the mdv images that can be used on Qemulator and vDrive are not immediately compatible with the Q68?


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Re: Q68 support thread

Postby tofro » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:33 pm

Chr$ wrote:Ok. I couldn't see anything in the PDF Q68 Mainboard Manual or the SMSQ/E FOR THE Q68 doc. Is there another?

Well, MDI and FDI drives are generic drivers hat run on any QL platform. You should be able to obtain the manuals from the QL homepage (or they're somehwere on Derek's install, maybe).

Chr$ wrote:And I assume that implies the mdv images that can be used on Qemulator and vDrive are not immediately compatible with the Q68?

Yes, slightly different format ("_MDV" vs. "_MDI"). But there's conversion tools included in the MDI driver package that convert back and forth.

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Re: Q68 support thread

Postby Derek_Stewart » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:03 pm

Chr$ wrote:Ok. I couldn't see anything in the PDF Q68 Mainboard Manual or the SMSQ/E FOR THE Q68 doc. Is there another?

And I assume that implies the mdv images that can be used on Qemulator and vDrive are not immediately compatible with the Q68?

Hi,

MDI and FDI are extensions to the operating system, you should look in WIN1_

FDI is in WIN1_FDI_
MDI is in WIN1_MDI_

Read the file "readme.txt" which details installation and the command added to SBASIC.

There is a command: CONVERT2_MDI which will convert MDV images to MDI format.

The Floppy drive image format is compatiable on all emulation platforms and FDI.


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Re: Q68 support thread

Postby Chr$ » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:45 pm

Aha, all within actual QL directories. Found them, thanks, will have a proper look.


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Original BBQL's: 3x German, 1x UK model (plus quite a bit of other old stuff)
Custom AT cased QL system with Gold Card, Qimi mouse, Hermes and MFM HDD
PC with QXLII card installed
Q68 also present

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Re: Q68 support thread

Postby ql_freak » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:13 pm

Chr$ wrote:Not directly, but yes if you have it QLNET'ed with a BBQL (and Fserve), then you can access it's floppy/mdv with e.g. n1_mdv1_

What is a BBQL?


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Re: Q68 support thread

Postby Chr$ » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:15 pm

ql_freak wrote:
Chr$ wrote:Not directly, but yes if you have it QLNET'ed with a BBQL (and Fserve), then you can access it's floppy/mdv with e.g. n1_mdv1_

What is a BBQL?

Sorry, it's a term I didn't like at first as it confused me and can confuse others, but I still ended up adopting it over time! It's just a 'black box QL' i.e. the original Sinclair hardware.


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Original BBQL's: 3x German, 1x UK model (plus quite a bit of other old stuff)
Custom AT cased QL system with Gold Card, Qimi mouse, Hermes and MFM HDD
PC with QXLII card installed
Q68 also present

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Re: Q68 support thread

Postby Mad Fritz » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:54 pm

And I thought it means Bare Bone QL
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Re: Q68 support thread

Postby Chr$ » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:01 pm

Mad Fritz wrote:And I thought it means Bars Bone QL

Maybe we need another acronym to indicate an original with no expansions at all. A BBBBQL? ;)


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Original BBQL's: 3x German, 1x UK model (plus quite a bit of other old stuff)
Custom AT cased QL system with Gold Card, Qimi mouse, Hermes and MFM HDD
PC with QXLII card installed
Q68 also present

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Re: Q68 support thread

Postby Peter » Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:30 pm

ql_freak wrote:What is a BBQL?

This acronym is especially problematic when hungry. The first three letters always make me think of spareribs and steaks.



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