Psion Software with Gold Card
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Psion Software with Gold Card
Now that I have a working original GC attached to my QL I've just been playing around with my normal QL stuff.
It doesn't seem to work with anything from the original Psion suite. Is that normal? I read that the Psion progs like to take all the available RAM. When I try to EW e.g. Quill, it goes bananas, corrupt screen, accessing random mdv's, it even managed to change my vMap configuration! Searching online doesn't reveal anything related to GC/Psion use so perhaps I have another issue.
Any ideas?
It doesn't seem to work with anything from the original Psion suite. Is that normal? I read that the Psion progs like to take all the available RAM. When I try to EW e.g. Quill, it goes bananas, corrupt screen, accessing random mdv's, it even managed to change my vMap configuration! Searching online doesn't reveal anything related to GC/Psion use so perhaps I have another issue.
Any ideas?
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Re: Psion Software with Gold Card
The Psion suite becomes confused if there is "too much" free memory available.
You can often work around this if you simply hog some memory during start-up of the program and release it afterwards:
You can often work around this if you simply hog some memory during start-up of the program and release it afterwards:
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100 REMark needs TK2
110 a = ALCHP (1024 * 1024) : REMark Grab 1MB of memory (adjust with SGC/GC - leave around 256k free for Quill)
120 EW win1_quill
130 RECHP (a)
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Re: Psion Software with Gold Card
Hmm, first an EW, then an ALCHP.....?
For those things, the early programs from the QRAM suite are very useful to patch the Psion programs. Or use Qpac 2 "Execute" Sub-menu "Psion".
For those things, the early programs from the QRAM suite are very useful to patch the Psion programs. Or use Qpac 2 "Execute" Sub-menu "Psion".
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Re: Psion Software with Gold Card
You might try Quill-e v2.4 on DIlwyn's download page here: http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/psions/index.html.Chr$ wrote:Now that I have a working original GC attached to my QL I've just been playing around with my normal QL stuff.
It doesn't seem to work with anything from the original Psion suite. Is that normal? I read that the Psion progs like to take all the available RAM. When I try to EW e.g. Quill, it goes bananas, corrupt screen, accessing random mdv's, it even managed to change my vMap configuration! Searching online doesn't reveal anything related to GC/Psion use so perhaps I have another issue.
If you have the Pointer Environment, you can start Quill with the EXEP command like this: EXEP Quill,p,256 to allow 256K to be reserved for Quill.
Also note that the Psion programs don't handle subdirectories, if the document you want to load is in a subdirectory you have to use the DEV_USE command to make a devx_ device point into the subdirectory and use 'devx_name_doc' in Quill to load the document.
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Re: Psion Software with Gold Card
Yes I remember starting the patched versions using EW GRQUILL, EW GRABACUS etc. .Ralf R. wrote:Hmm, first an EW, then an ALCHP.....?
For those things, the early programs from the QRAM suite are very useful to patch the Psion programs. Or use Qpac 2 "Execute" Sub-menu "Psion".
This was later incorporated in the EXEP command with the P parameter, e.g. EXEP Quill,p,256.
Re: Psion Software with Gold Card
What Psion versions are you using ?
I use XChange 3.90 with GC and SGC and have not encountered any issues.
I use XChange 3.90 with GC and SGC and have not encountered any issues.
Re: Psion Software with Gold Card
Don't get that.Ralf R. wrote:Hmm, first an EW, then an ALCHP.....?
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Re: Psion Software with Gold Card
2.3 or 2.35, I can't remember exactly. Quite an ancient 'original' one.Andrew wrote:What Psion versions are you using ?
Tobias, I couldn't get your ALCHP trick to work.
I'll try EXEP Quill,p,256 but will probably move over to Xchange then (I've used that on the QXLII).
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Re: Psion Software with Gold Card
If you EW you never reach ALCHP to release memory. Only if you quit QUILL.tofro wrote:Don't get that.Ralf R. wrote:Hmm, first an EW, then an ALCHP.....?
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Re: Psion Software with Gold Card
ALCHP allocates the memory and hides it from Quill.Ralf R. wrote:If you EW you never reach ALCHP to release memory. Only if you quit QUILL.tofro wrote:Don't get that.Ralf R. wrote:Hmm, first an EW, then an ALCHP.....?
RECHP releases it once Quill is done.
And the ALCHP obviously is before the EW.
I still don't get your point (maybe you confuse the two commands?).
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