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Sony CVM, BVM, or PVM with QL ?

Postby SinclairSociety » Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:37 pm

Anyone know if one can use the Sony style, more industrial looking style CRT Displays with the QL?

If yes, does it show all QL resolutions correctly or missing right two characters like I have today using the SCART to HDMI Adapter to my LCD screen?

Models like the CVM or BVM or PVM.

I think I want to go with one of these Sony's here in the USA if I can for my QL... although I would LOVE a SInclair branded black display... I think my odds getting one in USA is about nil.

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Re: Sony CVM, BVM, or PVM with QL ?

Postby Andrew » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:58 am

I use a SONY PVM1454-QM with the QL with no problems whatsoever :)
All image is on screen (if the underscan button is pressed), not missing any characters. You will need to build an Scart to 4xBNC adaptor


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Re: Sony CVM, BVM, or PVM with QL ?

Postby SinclairSociety » Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:12 pm

Andrew wrote:I use a SONY PVM1454-QM with the QL with no problems whatsoever :)
All image is on screen (if the underscan button is pressed), not missing any characters. You will need to build an Scart to 4xBNC adaptor


That is super news... never made a cable before... no clue on how to do that... but wonder if anyone makes and sells such a cable?

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Re: Sony CVM, BVM, or PVM with QL ?

Postby dex » Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:55 am

SinclairSociety wrote:
Andrew wrote: You will need to build an Scart to 4xBNC adaptor

but wonder if anyone makes and sells such a cable?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SONY-PVM-MONITOR-4-x-BNC-2-x-PHONO-INPUT-TO-RGB-SCART-ADAPTER-BREAKOUT-CABLE/321744637454


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Re: Sony CVM, BVM, or PVM with QL ?

Postby SinclairSociety » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:14 pm

dex wrote:
SinclairSociety wrote:
Andrew wrote: You will need to build an Scart to 4xBNC adaptor

but wonder if anyone makes and sells such a cable?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SONY-PVM-MONITOR-4-x-BNC-2-x-PHONO-INPUT-TO-RGB-SCART-ADAPTER-BREAKOUT-CABLE/321744637454


Awesome, thanks!
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Re: Sony CVM, BVM, or PVM with QL ?

Postby tofro » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:05 pm

I'm a bit lost exactly where you want to plug the SCART plug in when you no longer use the upscaler?

I'd rather think you need a custom "DIN-to-4x-Cinch-Adapter" (note you cannot use the ones intended for audio use normally - they tend to have a 470-Ohm resistor in the recording lines.) The video ones normally have a female DIN, you need a male one.

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Re: Sony CVM, BVM, or PVM with QL ?

Postby Andrew » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:22 pm

tofro wrote:I'm a bit lost exactly where you want to plug the SCART plug in when you no longer use the upscaler?

If you want to use store -bought cables: you plug the scart cable into the female scart of the RGB Scart to 4xBNC adapter. This is my setup now , albeit I use a home built adapter . This also allows me to use the same QL SCART cable with different monitors/TVs (with or without another adapter, depending on the monitor)

A "DIN-to-4x-Cinch-Adapter" eliminates the need of adapter, but you will have to built it yourself and use it only with the SONY monitor.


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Re: Sony CVM, BVM, or PVM with QL ?

Postby SinclairSociety » Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:10 pm

Andrew wrote:
tofro wrote:I'm a bit lost exactly where you want to plug the SCART plug in when you no longer use the upscaler?

If you want to use store -bought cables: you plug the scart cable into the female scart of the RGB Scart to 4xBNC adapter. This is my setup now , albeit I use a home built adapter . This also allows me to use the same QL SCART cable with different monitors/TVs (with or without another adapter, depending on the monitor)

A "DIN-to-4x-Cinch-Adapter" eliminates the need of adapter, but you will have to built it yourself and use it only with the SONY monitor.


I am in the USA... but my QL is a UK model. Right now I use a SCART to HDMI adapter and is fine for now.. but... if I buy a USA model Sony BVM... will I have PAL/NTSC issues?

Not sure if Sony BVM sold here in USA can handle both PAL and NTSC or are only NTSC and therefore, this cable method may not work for me? Not sure.

But if the USA Sony BVM can handle PAL, I guess I would be OK?

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Re: Sony CVM, BVM, or PVM with QL ?

Postby Andrew » Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:14 pm

Sony can handle PAL, SECAM, NTSC and NTSC 4.43 on the Video input.
But you will be using the RGB+Sync input which gives you the best image.


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Re: Sony CVM, BVM, or PVM with QL ?

Postby SinclairSociety » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:43 pm

Andrew wrote:Sony can handle PAL, SECAM, NTSC and NTSC 4.43 on the Video input.
But you will be using the RGB+Sync input which gives you the best image.


Cool, thanks.
Will start saving for a Sony BVM.
I guess if I can't find the exact model mentioned above, any recommendations of what I need to confirm my Sony BVM should have before I buy one.
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