Andy Pennell's books.

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Re: Andy Pennell's books.

Postby NormanDunbar » Thu May 12, 2022 7:29 pm

Of course they do Dilwyn,

I know you have at least two languages, so that makes you bilingual first, British second. ;)

A bit like me, I speak English (sort of) with a Scottish slant, but I am also fluent in gibberish! So I'm bilingual too. ;)

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Re: Andy Pennell's books.

Postby RalfR » Thu May 12, 2022 8:08 pm

What bothers me most about the official SMSQ book is that the original QDOS names are not mentioned.


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Re: Andy Pennell's books.

Postby dilwyn » Thu May 12, 2022 8:47 pm

RalfR wrote:What bothers me most about the official SMSQ book is that the original QDOS names are not mentioned.

What bothers me about this is that the Pennell books are QDOS books. They include none of the SMSQ/E OS enhancements. By all means make corrections. But it makes little sense to change them to use SMS-only nomenclature, for that use the proper SMSQ guides.


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Re: Andy Pennell's books.

Postby tofro » Thu May 12, 2022 10:18 pm

dilwyn wrote:
RalfR wrote:What bothers me most about the official SMSQ book is that the original QDOS names are not mentioned.

What bothers me about this is that the Pennell books are QDOS books. They include none of the SMSQ/E OS enhancements. By all means make corrections. But it makes little sense to change them to use SMS-only nomenclature, for that use the proper SMSQ guides.


One hundred percent agree. I think we'll just have to live with being bi-lingual.


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Re: Andy Pennell's books.

Postby janbredenbeek » Thu May 12, 2022 11:03 pm

RalfR wrote:What bothers me most about the official SMSQ book is that the original QDOS names are not mentioned.

Because of copyright reasons?


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Re: Andy Pennell's books.

Postby pjw » Fri May 13, 2022 1:40 pm

I dont really have a dog in this fight; its all the same to me, though I do
think it would be nice if more people would like to code for the QL AND
derivatives. From the opinions Ive read above, it seems to me that a
compromise would suit best; either Norm's suggestion of OL.DNAME/new.name
or, perhaps OL.DNAME (new.name) if someone can be bothered to do the work.

The main job is to get the original text corrected. It seems Derek has
taken charge of that effort. If the final draft is in a format that is easy
to edit (TXT or DOC, for example, rather than PDF) someone who feels
passionately about it could rework it to include the new names. It might
make sense if that someone would declare themselves as taking on the job
rather than five different people each having a go (and then keeping it for
themselves) but then this is the QL community, so I guess its a bit like
expecting cats to walk in a parade..


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Re: Andy Pennell's books.

Postby Derek_Stewart » Fri May 13, 2022 3:12 pm

Hi,

I have word processed the book in LibreOffice Writer v7.3, only because I do not want to pay licence fee for Microsft Office.

So the format is either ODT or PDF, or LibreOffice can save the file as Microsoft Word file, there maybe formatting that Word does not like an may fail, plus I like to use only open source software.

If the System Trap, Vector definitions are changed as stated above the book becomes not The QDOS Companion, but something like: QDOS/SMSQ/E Companion, not the same thing.

Also, every book that has been written for QDOS would have to be changed.

I think personally the change in Mnemonics in SMSQ/E was not something was just thrust onto the QL World in general without any user consultation.

Maybe SMSQ/E is wrong, as QDOS was ther first, all the SMSQ/E Mneumonics should changed to QDOS...


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Re: Andy Pennell's books.

Postby Derek_Stewart » Mon May 16, 2022 9:08 am

HI,

Since I have had no comment from Andrew Pennell, with regards, to my efforts to to convert the QDOS-Companion from paper to electronic book, I have uploaded the LibreOffice ODT file and a PDF file to Github:

https://github.com/SinclairQL/QDOS-Companion

I would be grateful is someone can proof read the book and correct any errors from the original paper book.

Update of the book to cover later version of QDOS, can be done by the Github Fork process.


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Re: Andy Pennell's books.

Postby XorA » Mon May 16, 2022 10:19 am

Derek_Stewart wrote:HI,

Since I have had no comment from Andrew Pennell, with regards, to my efforts to to convert the QDOS-Companion from paper to electronic book, I have uploaded the LibreOffice ODT file and a PDF file to Github:

https://github.com/SinclairQL/QDOS-Companion

I would be grateful is someone can proof read the book and correct any errors from the original paper book.

Update of the book to cover later version of QDOS, can be done by the Github Fork process.


Thanks for your work on that Derek, we have had a few people new to QL asking about that book on the chat!


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Re: Andy Pennell's books.

Postby Peter » Mon May 16, 2022 11:34 am

Many thanks Derek, looks like a lot of work.
Is ISBN 0-946408-649-6 on the back cover correct? On my paper version it is ISBN 0-946408-69-6



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