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I got the real thing ! try to run Superforth

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:19 pm
by 78squirel78
Hi all,

I finally put my hands on a very nice QL french version.
Running Superforth ended up with "not found at line 160"
If you remember it was the same topic with Qemulator.
Applying the following command ended up succesfully:

WCOPY flp2_ TO win1_ and press "A" to copy all the files across. Finally, ... LRUN win1_BOOT.

This time the same above command ended with "Incorrect line"

WCOPY mdv1 TO mdv2_ A

I have to say that in the mean time I only worked on SuperForth, and that I am still a beginner concerning QL system.

I have to spend time on this side.

Thanks for your help again !

Guy

Re: I got the real thing ! try to run Superforth

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:22 pm
by RWAP
I hope you used

WCOPY mdv1_ TO mdv2_

(you didn't have the underline on the command above)

Re: I got the real thing ! try to run Superforth

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:01 pm
by 78squirel78
Hi,

Yes the underline was there.
I had a look to the manuals, and didn't find WCOPY.
You may think I am stupid soomewhere.
The only thing beeing : why the same command worked on Qemulator
and not on the real machine.
I must specify that it is a french version of the QL. Differences should be limited
to translated error messages, and an AZERTY keyboard instead of QWERTY.
I understand that it is a kind of ZIP file that is on the cartridge, and this one
must be unzipped with WCOPY as it was told to me previously.

Thanks for your help

Guy

Re: I got the real thing ! try to run Superforth

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 4:53 pm
by dilwyn
78squirel78 wrote:Hi,

Yes the underline was there.
I had a look to the manuals, and didn't find WCOPY.
You may think I am stupid soomewhere.
The only thing beeing : why the same command worked on Qemulator
and not on the real machine.
I must specify that it is a french version of the QL. Differences should be limited
to translated error messages, and an AZERTY keyboard instead of QWERTY.
I understand that it is a kind of ZIP file that is on the cartridge, and this one
must be unzipped with WCOPY as it was told to me previously.

Thanks for your help

Guy

Remember that WCOPY is not built into a basic black box QL, it only comes with Toolkit 2 or on some disk interfaces. (To make matters worse, some disk interfaces might require that the extensions are initialised with a TK2_EXT command for Toolkit 2 or FLP_EXT for flopy disk extensions).
QemuLator is usually supplied with Toolkit 2 ROM image so this might be why.

Re: I got the real thing ! try to run Superforth

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:37 pm
by 78squirel78
Does it mean that I am stuck without the Toolkit extension ?

In his time, SuperForth was running on a blackbox. I have to find
someone who owns the "unzipped" software, send him a blank cartridge,
and get a copy.

So does someone own this rarity ?

.... listening .............................

:?:

Re: I got the real thing ! try to run Superforth

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:21 am
by RWAP
I can make you up a working copy on microdrive :)

Re: I got the real thing ! try to run Superforth

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:31 am
by 78squirel78
Hi,
Thank you, I will send you a PM.

Re: I got the real thing ! try to run Superforth

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 4:11 pm
by tofro
78squirel78 wrote:Does it mean that I am stuck without the Toolkit extension ?


No, not at all - You still can copy the mdv to flp - TK2 is simply providing a more convenient way to do that with one single command.
If you would want to do the same without TK2, you simply need to copy file by file manually.

Whereas

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wcopy mdv1_ to flp1_

would copy everything, you need to do the same file by file.

Do a

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dir mdv1_

to see what's on the drive, then for each file do a

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copy mdv1_BOOT to flp1_BOOT

(replacing "BOOT" with all the names you saw as a result of the DIR command and "flp1_" with the name of your target device.)
Tobias

Re: I got the real thing ! try to run Superforth

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 4:20 pm
by Derek_Stewart
Hi,

Why not download Toolkit 2 (TK2) from Dilwyn's web site and load it in at boot and all the commands will be available.

If the full version of TK2 is too big, there is the reconfigurable version.

Re: I got the real thing ! try to run Superforth

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 11:04 am
by 78squirel78
To Derek and Tofro,

Thank you for your help.

Concerning Toolkit or Toolkit2, Ok I can download them, but there is no way
to copy them on a real microdrive cartridge as I have a real QL. They are dedicated
to emulators (as it is written).
And copying files this way is the same issue:
"No, not at all - You still can copy the mdv to flp"

I have seen on eBay a Toolkit software on microdrive cartridge. I'll catch and try.

Sure that running on an emulator will be easier, but I have more fun
on a real QL, even if it is slower and offers me some difficultys. But this is the game.


More news to come,

Guy