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Dev_use how to use?

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:19 pm
by Jbizzel
Here....

https://www.dilwyn.qlforum.co.uk/editview/index.html

Explains how to get software working that is expecting to live on one drive, IE mdv1 but is actually on win2_ etc.

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Create a subdirectory for the program in question, to hold the program and its associated files
MAKE_DIR WIN1_QUILL_
Copy all of the program's files into that directory.
Now use the DEV_USE command to redefine FLP1_ and FLP2_ to refer to the directory in question:
DEV_USE 1,WIN1_QUILL_
DEV_USE 2,WIN1_QUILL_
DEV_USE FLP
So that you can continue to access the floppy drives now that FLP1_ and 2 have been redefined, use the FLP_USE command to rename the disk drives to some other memorable name such as FDK1_ and FDK2_ like this:
FLP_USE FDK

However, nothing of the sort works for me, what am I doing wrong please? I just get 'bad name' error

Re: Dev_use how to use?

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:35 pm
by tofro
The dev_ device us built in SMSQ/E. There is a loadable device driver for the standard QL, that you probably haven't loaded. You'll find that in the Toolkit section on Dilwyyn's site.

Re: Dev_use how to use?

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:37 pm
by Jbizzel
Thank you!

I see now! - the Dev toolkit.

:D

Re: Dev_use how to use?

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:55 pm
by dilwyn
https://www.dilwyn.qlforum.co.uk/tk/index.html
Make sure you use the right one, depending on whether the system has a QL-SD or not. QL-SD systems need v2.05 or later.

May need the hotkey system to work.

Some disk systems such as some of those from Miracle Systems might already have DEV built in, as does SMSQ/E.

If you can't get that to work on your system for any reason, you could also try the SUB device driver on the same page.

Re: Dev_use how to use?

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:17 am
by Jbizzel
Yes, it doesn't work

It says not implemented.

Re: Dev_use how to use?

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:09 am
by dilwyn
Did you have pointer environment installed? The stand-alone ones on my website need it according to the notes on the page (don't know the reason why, might need Thing system or something to link into, can't remember the reason now).
"Bad Name" usually means the extension hasn't been linked in for whatever reason.

Can't help further as I haven't got a system without DEV built in set up to check (all SMSQ/E or have Miracle disk interfaces such as Gold Card with DEV built in).

Re: Dev_use how to use?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:48 pm
by Jbizzel
I make progress.

(my set up is QL, Minerva, TK2, Qubide with max ram)

Following advice here....

https://dilwyn.qlforum.co.uk/pe/index.html

Using versons ...

PTR_GEN v2.01,
WMAN v2.05 and
HOT_REXT v2.29

I created my boot file

When I load my boot file it says....

HOTKEY System2 already exists.

What?!

My boot file looks like this - not with xxxx yyyyy zzzzz, but the file sizes.

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100 base1=RESPR(xxxxx) : LBYTES FLP1_PTR_GEN,base1 : CALL base1
110 base2=RESPR(yyyyy) : LBYTES FLP1_WMAN,base2 : CALL base2
120 base3=RESPR(zzzzz) : LBYTES FLP1_HOT_REXT,base3 : CALL base3

110 LRESPR FLP1_PTR_GEN
120 LRESPR FLP1_WMAN
130 LRESPR FLP1_HOT_REXT
BUT, most of the dev_use commands now work! so result!

EXCEPT....

DEV_USE FLP - does not work.

Any thoughts are most welcome.

Re: Dev_use how to use?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:53 pm
by tofro
Jbizzel wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:48 pm

EXCEPT....

DEV_USE FLP - does not work.

Any thoughts are most welcome.
Try

DEF_USEN

instead.

Re: Dev_use how to use?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:06 pm
by desin
Hello
there is a other option for dev_use
it chains eight devices together in a closed chain
now ex ¨program¨ searches every link in the chain for the ¨program"
and if found executes it
dev_use SMSQE.png
dev_use SMSQE.png (17.28 KiB) Viewed 1065 times

Greetings from Switzerland
Markus

Re: Dev_use how to use?

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:22 pm
by Jbizzel
Hello and thanks.

tofro wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:53 pm
Try

DEF_USEN

instead.
Doesn't work. Bad name trying dev_usen flp


This link is pretty helpful to understand a bit more about these toolkits

https://oldmachinery.blogspot.com/2019/ ... r.html?m=1