Spem QL keyboard

Nagging hardware related question? Post here!
User avatar
Chr$
QL Wafer Drive
Posts: 1315
Joined: Mon May 27, 2019 10:03 am
Location: Sachsen, Germany
Contact:

Re: Spem QL keyboard

Post by Chr$ »

There is continuity between those pins on mine, too, so that's probably ok. Mine did work when I last checked (just not all keys).

Do you have 2x socketed HCF4066BE chips on the component side? I suppose you could re-socket them and check they are clean. There is a single electrolytic cap too, that you can also check. The rest is resistors and diodes. I just found another couple of cracked solder joints on mine.


https://QXL.WIN
Collector of QL related computers, accessories and QL games/software.
Ask me about felt pads - I can cut them to size and they have proved excellent for mdv data recovery.
Delta
ROM Dongle
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:52 pm

Re: Spem QL keyboard

Post by Delta »

Yes, I have those ICs which I have cleaned and reseated. I will replace the capacitor tomorrow.
I have noticed that all the keys show continuity between the top pin and bottom left. However, keys 5 & 6 on the numeric keypad show continuity between all three points. Is that correct behavior?


User avatar
Chr$
QL Wafer Drive
Posts: 1315
Joined: Mon May 27, 2019 10:03 am
Location: Sachsen, Germany
Contact:

Re: Spem QL keyboard

Post by Chr$ »

With them not depressed? No, they shouldn't all be shorted if the key isn't pressed. Stuck keys could well be the issue I imagine. Remove those 2, see if it then works.


https://QXL.WIN
Collector of QL related computers, accessories and QL games/software.
Ask me about felt pads - I can cut them to size and they have proved excellent for mdv data recovery.
Delta
ROM Dongle
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:52 pm

Re: Spem QL keyboard

Post by Delta »

Chr$ wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:09 pm With them not depressed? No, they shouldn't all be shorted if the key isn't pressed. Stuck keys could well be the issue I imagine. Remove those 2, see if it then works.
Yes, with the keys not depressed. I realized I made a mistake. The top and bottom right (not bottom left) all show continuity but with those two, there is continuity between all three.

I will attempt to remove those two keys...


Delta
ROM Dongle
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:52 pm

Re: Spem QL keyboard

Post by Delta »

I have now removed a total of 6 keys that exhibited the strange behavior of showing continuity between all three points...Unfortunately, it has made no difference at all.

I am now considering removing them all and replacing them with better key switches.


Delta
ROM Dongle
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:52 pm

Re: Spem QL keyboard

Post by Delta »

Chr$ wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:29 pm They have a ribbon cable coming out of them with a long flat PCB at the other end that just plugs into the 2 k/b connectors on the QL motherboard. I have one and have replaced all the keyswitches with clicky ones ;) (available new, brand Futaba).
Would you mind posting a link for the Futaba key switches you used?
Thanks


User avatar
Chr$
QL Wafer Drive
Posts: 1315
Joined: Mon May 27, 2019 10:03 am
Location: Sachsen, Germany
Contact:

Re: Spem QL keyboard

Post by Chr$ »



https://QXL.WIN
Collector of QL related computers, accessories and QL games/software.
Ask me about felt pads - I can cut them to size and they have proved excellent for mdv data recovery.
Delta
ROM Dongle
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:52 pm

Re: Spem QL keyboard

Post by Delta »

Chr$ wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:06 am These (clicky upgrade):

https://www.pollin.de/p/futaba-eingabet ... tch-420905

Or these if you want original non clicky:

https://www.pollin.de/p/futaba-eingabet ... f-n-421526
Thank you.
I attempted to purchase and was told they don't ship to the UK :D
I will look for an alternative supplier.


User avatar
Chr$
QL Wafer Drive
Posts: 1315
Joined: Mon May 27, 2019 10:03 am
Location: Sachsen, Germany
Contact:

Re: Spem QL keyboard

Post by Chr$ »

I can forward them on. I bought 100 (clicky) and also have 11 spares. Thought it would be a good idea to keep some spares as you never know how long they will be available. They were the only source I could find.


https://QXL.WIN
Collector of QL related computers, accessories and QL games/software.
Ask me about felt pads - I can cut them to size and they have proved excellent for mdv data recovery.
Delta
ROM Dongle
Posts: 28
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:52 pm

Re: Spem QL keyboard

Post by Delta »

Chr$ wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:40 am I can forward them on. I bought 100 (clicky) and also have 11 spares. Thought it would be a good idea to keep some spares as you never know how long they will be available. They were the only source I could find.
That's very kind of you, I was going to buy a 100 too so I can replace all the key switches.

However, I am not convinced my problem is the keyswitches as I tested them desoldered from the board and they worked as expected: a contact between the top and bottom right pin when depressed.


Post Reply