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Re: Metacomco C Manual
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:23 pm
by XorA
Derek_Stewart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:54 pm
Can C68 be developed more?
Technically yes, we have the source!
Re: Metacomco C Manual
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:25 pm
by XorA
XorA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:23 pm
Derek_Stewart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:54 pm
Can C68 be developed more?
Technically yes, we have the source!
If people were going to put serious effort in, finishing QL support on VBCC would probably be better.
http://sun.hasenbraten.de/vbcc/
Re: Metacomco C Manual
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:06 pm
by Derek_Stewart
Hi,
I was looking at vbcc, a while back. As there is vasm and vlink, that would produce QDOS output.
So is possible to port vbcc to produce output that can be assembled by vasm?
Re: Metacomco C Manual
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:00 pm
by ones' complement
tofro wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:54 pm
ones' complement wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:51 pm
Great copy of the manual Derek, very tempting to work through it. Although it appears the
disk and
ROM are available, do the apparent
bugs in it make it worthwhile versus C68 ?
I used to be a long-time user of MCC. Bugs there were a few, but nothing that really spoiled the fun.
C68 is an
old compiler. Metacomco Lattice C, in comparison is
ancient, however. For anybody used to modern C programming, MCC might be (for example with its K&R instead of ANSI function declarations) a bit of a venture back to stone age. But the beast is a honest, reasonably professional compiler that has at least one advantage over C68, it can produce position-independant code, something C68 lacks a bit. And both are way above other compilers for the QL. Other than that, I would always favor C68 over MCC.
Thanks for the info, it looks worthwhile enough to have a play with (though wrong time of year now, something for the autumn evenings).
Re: Metacomco C Manual
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:13 pm
by dex
"Your browser seems a bit outdated".
It is impossible to visit Mega.nz with latest version of TenFourFox.
Is there any other possibility to obtain Metacomco C manual PDF file?
Re: Metacomco C Manual
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 8:40 pm
by Derek_Stewart
Hi,
I tried to upload the PDF, which is 2.21Mb but the Forum software thinks it is too large, though there is a message saying a maximum file size of 10Mb
- QLC.pdf
- Metacomco QLC User Guide
- (2.11 MiB) Downloaded 98 times
With the kind help of the QL Forum Admin Team, I have been able to upload the PDF.
Here is the Libre Office file:
Re: Metacomco C Manual
Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 2:09 am
by ql_freak
Chr$ wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:40 am
Mine also had this 2-page errata.
Mine fortunately not (98 and 99 are different and 142 and 143 are also different).
@Derek: Check your E-Mail (the one where you announced to me the sending of Q68). All 4 pages are different (CLR..., FILENO, STCI..., STCI... or so).
Regards
Peter
Re: Metacomco C Manual
Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 8:49 am
by Derek_Stewart
ql_freak wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 2:09 am
Chr$ wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:40 am
Mine also had this 2-page errata.
Mine fortunately not (98 and 99 are different and 142 and 143 are also different).
@Derek: Check your E-Mail (the one where you announced to me the sending of Q68). All 4 pages are different (CLR..., FILENO, STCI..., STCI... or so).
Regards
Peter
Hi Peter,
Thank you for the update, I will check the scanned PDF and update the file where necessary.