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Having built up a fair collection of the QL magazines over the last few years I am keen to complete to the best I can, however not to pay silly money. As you can see from the screen shots there are a few gaps from my image based website. I still have a number of missing titles and if you have any please pm me. I am prepared to purchase collections as long as there is enough of what I have not already got. I also have a small number of duplicates if anyone is interested in swapping.
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I have quite a few of these - it would be easier to list the ones which are missing :)

I might do a deal if you can help add some of the information to the QL Wiki about software and hardware detailed in them!


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I wonder if anyone has thought about doing a scan project of all these magazines?


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RWAP wrote:I have quite a few of these - it would be easier to list the ones which are missing :)

I might do a deal if you can help add some of the information to the QL Wiki about software and hardware detailed in them!

Will work on that :)


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vanpeebles wrote:I wonder if anyone has thought about doing a scan project of all these magazines?

Yes I have, however for copyright reasons I tried to track down the people who now owned the copyright on the magazines and came up against a brick wall, never recieved responses to my emails. :|


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I wonder what would happen if someone scanned them anyway :?:


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I assume that they would hang around on a website for people to download until someone took umbridge or make known to the copyright holders that this download was available. A seek and desist notification from some law firm or maybe prosecution notice. There is a fair usage part of copyright which allows (in some limited fashion) reproduced work, part or whole if, IF, it is part of a critique, or parody and depending on the nature of the usage and commercial impact (as I understand it).

Copyright length for printed works (assuming magazines here) is either forty two years from the publication of the work, or for the lifetime of the author plus seven years, whichever was the longer.
Acknowledgment of the source makes a use fair. Giving the name of the photographer or author may help, but it is not sufficient on its own. While plagiarism and copyright violation are related matters—-both can, at times, involve failure to properly credit sources—-they are not identical. Plagiarism—using someone's words, ideas, images, etc. without acknowledgment—is a matter of professional ethics. Copyright is a matter of law, and protects exact expression, not ideas. One can plagiarize even a work that is not protected by copyright, such as trying to pass off a line from Shakespeare as one's own. On the other hand, citing sources generally prevents accusations of plagiarism, but is an insufficient defense against copyright violations. For example, reprinting a copyrighted book without permission, while citing the original author, would be copyright infringement but not plagiarism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#C ... rstandings

BTW looking in to the copyright issue I found out to my amusement my misunderstanding of 'parody' which I assumed to be something taking the mick out of something else by emulation, impersonation etc. but always funny. Not so, 'parody' does not necessarilly mean comic approach, well you learn something everyday.

I guess in principle, you could copy each page and show it on a website for example if each page was accompanied by a critique or comment. Not sure I would want to test it without legal advice though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
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Basically, it is the same as with software, copyright laws are there to protect publishers and authors alike. There is a great myth on the internet about "abandonware", or publish and be damned - neither of which are protection against international copyright laws.

Some people decide to take the risk and publish copyright material on the internet, but they stand the risk of

a) Damage to their reputation
b) A lawsuit by the copyright holder for damages (which can be for lost revenue as well as other claims, including a stop and desist order)
c) Their webhost being notified and as a result, removal of their website.

We have already seen (in 2012) the first instance of blatant distribution of copyrighted material on the internet and I know that many of the QL copyright holders out there would defend their rights vigorously.

As for using the argument that it is a critique of something - publishing a whole magazine (or program) for example, and then having a comment below it saying "just shows how much programming has advanced since 1984" would just not be acceptable use (!) - but I guess an extract of a particular article along with a critical review (or re-review of the subject) might be.


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Thanks for the clarification RWAP Master :)


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There is definitely abandonware - the myth is not about whether exists, but about the way in which it exists.

If a person personally owns a copyright and dies, not leaving the copyright to anyone in a will, outside of the UK, the copyright continues but the item is abandonware. Within the UK, the copyright converts to the Crown, unless the original holder simply specified otherwise.

If a corporation dissolves, and the copyright assets are not transferred, they do not revert to the Crown, and truly meet the definition of "abandonware."

There is a decided difference, when looking at expired markets, between what is "right" and what is "moral." Further, when a product or work has no residual market value, the probability of legal action becomes incredibly low, though non-zero. Action represents an expense greater than the entire future value of the item in question.

So the question becomes, "Will a rights holder willingly allow X to become abandonware, will they be forced to stand by as it happens anyway, or will they invest the resources to protect X?"

As a defender of copyright who also wishes it retained the original 14 or 20 year term, depending on jurisdiction, I see both sides. I regularly have to defend books I've written, even though the effort is greater than the reward, on principle.

I won't even get into the realm of accounting headaches caused by assigning value to fully depreciated assets.

Don't oversimplify.


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