Naive question about SCART connection on TV

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Eureka!


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Great news :D

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Hello,
I've a question for georgeo...
Looking at the screen you've posted, I see you have a very good resolution on your UMC TV.
Did you see the full characters on the side of the screen, like on a monitor?
Is it about the quality of the cable or have you made adjustments to the TV?
I made my own SCART cable (following fruitcake info) and I also have a good signal but I cannot see the left characters when I choose monitor output.
Are you able to give a look to your cable connections?
Thank you

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Jornaclaude wrote: I made my own SCART cable (following fruitcake info) but I cannot see the left characters when I choose monitor output.
Are you able to give a look to your cable connections?
This issue is normal and does not depend on the cable


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Cristian wrote:
Jornaclaude wrote: I made my own SCART cable (following fruitcake info) but I cannot see the left characters when I choose monitor output.
Are you able to give a look to your cable connections?
This issue is normal and does not depend on the cable
Yes, the QL's video output does not fully comply with the TV broadcast standards. Back in the 1980s, monitor manufacturers adjusted the monitors to suit the wider than normal ("overscan") output from the QL.
Now with modern equipment, whether you get the full width depends on how much adjustment the TV (or monitor) manufacturer has provided. Some work okay after fiddling with the user controls/adjustments, while others can't display the first (left hand side), the last (right hand side) or both edges. In which case, use the TV mode.
The selection of TV vs. monitor mode just changes the layout the QL OS uses. All the QL video outputs produce a video picture regardless.

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Ok, thanks for the answers @1024Mak and @Cristian,

So I need a better explaination... I'm still not clear one thing
If I have a program that requires for example an output to 85 columns and runs in tv mode, will it change the display mode by itself?
In this case, having a TV instead of the monitor, will the problem of character cutting on the left reoccur?
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Jornaclaude wrote: If I have a program that requires for example an output to 85 columns and runs in tv mode, will it change the display mode by itself?
In this case, having a TV instead of the monitor, will the problem of character cutting on the left reoccur?
Thanks
The display mode does not change by itself, but there are programs (like Quill etc.) that allow to choose to reduce their column number for TV output.
Simply a normal TV can't display the whole QL output available, therefore you need an upscaler


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Cristian wrote:
Jornaclaude wrote: Simply a normal TV can't display the whole QL output available, therefore you need an upscaler
My next purchase :-)

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No. Your next purchase should be a QubIDE or QL-SD. Getting you using and saving data with the display you have will be more immediately rewarding. Also, it'll give you a good sense of what we've been through the last 34 years and help you understand some of the software design decisions.

You're trying to avoid the bad bits. I'm sorry, but you need to "take your lumps" ;)

What's Italian for "take your lumps"?


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My question is, what's "take your lumps" in English??? :-)


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